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As the UK band has recently been reduced to 10 MHz (3400 to 3410MHz) it is only possible to run DATV and there is currently very little activity in the UK apart from repeater outputs.
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In 2014/5 the UK 9cm amateur band was reduced to 3400-3410 MHz (from 3475 MHz), along with restrictions in 13cm. Consequently it only has the room to run DATV. However these spectrum changes have prompted development work and the band has proofed useful for UK repeater outputs.
  
Reports from the repeaters on 3.4GHz suggests it is very low noise spectrum and actually performs as well if not better than 2.3GHz.
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Reports from the repeaters on 3.4 GHz suggests it is very low noise spectrum and actually performs as well if not better than 2.3 GHz.
  
 
There is (or was) a lot of surplus transmit (and receive) equipment on the surplus market, mainly from the failed Ionica broadband wireless system, and it is a very easy band to get on to, both for Tx and Rx.
 
There is (or was) a lot of surplus transmit (and receive) equipment on the surplus market, mainly from the failed Ionica broadband wireless system, and it is a very easy band to get on to, both for Tx and Rx.
  
===Receiving 3.4 Ghz DATV===
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===Receiving 3.4 GHz DATV===
  
[[File:9cms rx.JPG|400px]]
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It is very easy to receive 3.4 GHz DATV on using C band satellite LNBs feeding directly in to a free to air satellite receiver or [[MiniTioune|MiniTiouner]] - no big antennaes, pre-amps or filters needed.
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However it is actually a very easy band to receive DATV on using C band satellite LNBs feeding directly in to a free to air satellite receiver or [[MiniTioune|MiniTiouner]]
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[[File:9cms rx.JPG|600px|center]]
  
A lot of people use the [http://www.titaniumsatellite.com/c1pll Titanium PLL LNB] available from ebay.  You can either use the basic LNB or mount it on a Sky mini dish to give more gain.
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A lot of people use the [http://www.titaniumsatellite.com/c1pll Titanium PLL LNB] available from ebay.   
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[[File:titanium lnb.jpg|200px]]
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You can either use the LNB on it's own, build a simple horn from a Marks and Spencer cardboard box covered in tinfoil, shown above, or mount it on a Sky mini dish, shown below, to give more gain.
  
 
[[File:G8GTZ antennaes.jpg|400px]]
 
[[File:G8GTZ antennaes.jpg|400px]]
  
===Transmitting 3.4GHz DATV===
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===Transmitting 3.4 GHz DATV===
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It is suggested that rather than try to generate DATV directly on 3.4 GHz, it is easier and probably more efficient to generate the DATV signal using the Portsdown at a lower frequency and then converting up using a Narrow Band transverter.  This can either be a commercial unit or home built using modules described below.
  
* Airspan AS4000
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A few years ago there was a lot of surplus 3.4 GHz wireless broadband equipment available - you don't see some much now, but if available it can be easily converted to DATV operation.
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====Airspan AS4000====
  
 
[[File:g6gvi9cm.jpg|400px]]
 
[[File:g6gvi9cm.jpg|400px]]
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Photo from G6GVI web page
  
 
The Airspan AS4000 is an outdoor consumer unit operating in duplex mode (Tx and Rx) on 3.4 GHz - it needs DC supply, transmit IF and reference oscillator up the co-ax and sends rx IF down.
 
The Airspan AS4000 is an outdoor consumer unit operating in duplex mode (Tx and Rx) on 3.4 GHz - it needs DC supply, transmit IF and reference oscillator up the co-ax and sends rx IF down.
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[http://www.qsl.net/g6gvi/9cm.html Link to G6GVI page]
 
[http://www.qsl.net/g6gvi/9cm.html Link to G6GVI page]
  
[http://www.m0dts.co.uk/?tag=3.4GHz&item=50 Link to M0DTS page]  
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[http://www.m0dts.co.uk/?tag=3.4GHz&item=50 Link to M0DTS page]
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==== Ionica PA ====
  
* Ionica PA
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[[File:s-l300.jpg|400px]]
  
Surplus units which require no modification to produce 15 watts NB or 5 watts DATV when driven by the AS4000
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Surplus units which require absolutely no modification to produce 15 watts NB or 5 watts DATV when driven by the AS4000
  
[http://dc2light.co.uk/9cmpamods.htm Link to Page listing how to use the Ionica PA]
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[http://dc2light.co.uk/9cmpamods.htm Link to GM4ISM page show how to use the Ionica PA]
  
* Iconica Big boards
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====Ionica Big boards====
  
 
[[File:bb1.jpg|400px]]
 
[[File:bb1.jpg|400px]]
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Photo from G4BAO web page
  
Whole chunks of working circuits can be retrieved from the Iconica main board to make a simple transverter as described on John G4BAO's site - but it is much easier now as we can use the ADF 4351 as the Local Oscillator on any frequency you desire.
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Whole chunks of working circuits can be retrieved from the Ionica main board to make a simple transverter as described on John G4BAO's site - don't forget, it is much easier now as we can use the ADF 4351 as the Local Oscillator on any frequency you desire.
  
 
[http://www.bravoao.co.uk/g4bao/page8.htm Link to G4BAO site]
 
[http://www.bravoao.co.uk/g4bao/page8.htm Link to G4BAO site]

Latest revision as of 18:02, 23 September 2018

In 2014/5 the UK 9cm amateur band was reduced to 3400-3410 MHz (from 3475 MHz), along with restrictions in 13cm. Consequently it only has the room to run DATV. However these spectrum changes have prompted development work and the band has proofed useful for UK repeater outputs.

Reports from the repeaters on 3.4 GHz suggests it is very low noise spectrum and actually performs as well if not better than 2.3 GHz.

There is (or was) a lot of surplus transmit (and receive) equipment on the surplus market, mainly from the failed Ionica broadband wireless system, and it is a very easy band to get on to, both for Tx and Rx.

Receiving 3.4 GHz DATV

It is very easy to receive 3.4 GHz DATV on using C band satellite LNBs feeding directly in to a free to air satellite receiver or MiniTiouner - no big antennaes, pre-amps or filters needed.


9cms rx.JPG


A lot of people use the Titanium PLL LNB available from ebay.

Titanium lnb.jpg

You can either use the LNB on it's own, build a simple horn from a Marks and Spencer cardboard box covered in tinfoil, shown above, or mount it on a Sky mini dish, shown below, to give more gain.

G8GTZ antennaes.jpg

Transmitting 3.4 GHz DATV

It is suggested that rather than try to generate DATV directly on 3.4 GHz, it is easier and probably more efficient to generate the DATV signal using the Portsdown at a lower frequency and then converting up using a Narrow Band transverter. This can either be a commercial unit or home built using modules described below.

A few years ago there was a lot of surplus 3.4 GHz wireless broadband equipment available - you don't see some much now, but if available it can be easily converted to DATV operation.

Airspan AS4000

G6gvi9cm.jpg Photo from G6GVI web page

The Airspan AS4000 is an outdoor consumer unit operating in duplex mode (Tx and Rx) on 3.4 GHz - it needs DC supply, transmit IF and reference oscillator up the co-ax and sends rx IF down.

The unit IF is at 820 MHz and G6GVI and M0DTS have both modified the local oscillator by changing the reference oscillator and reprogramming the PIC to provide an IF at 1296 - power output is 100 - 200 miliwatts with no modifications.

However, it is now possible to just use the ADF4351 controlled by Ron G7DOE's simple controller to provide an LO of 2970, which provides an IF at 432 MHz for Narrow Band and DATV use. The only other mods are to apply the IF signal after the 800 MHz IF filter and key the transmitter as shown on M0DTS site.


Link to G6GVI page

Link to M0DTS page

Ionica PA

S-l300.jpg

Surplus units which require absolutely no modification to produce 15 watts NB or 5 watts DATV when driven by the AS4000

Link to GM4ISM page show how to use the Ionica PA

Ionica Big boards

Bb1.jpg Photo from G4BAO web page

Whole chunks of working circuits can be retrieved from the Ionica main board to make a simple transverter as described on John G4BAO's site - don't forget, it is much easier now as we can use the ADF 4351 as the Local Oscillator on any frequency you desire.

Link to G4BAO site