Difference between revisions of "8-Band RF Output Switch"

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For those of you who want to drive Microwave transverters from your Portsdown or need a higher drive level, the team have developed an 8-Band RF output switch that includes an RF amplifier.

It is capable of amplifying the variable level from the Filter Modulator board / Lime SDR up to 10 dBm and switching it to separate external amplifiers for the 70, 144, 437, 1255 bands and up to 4 transverters for the higher bands. One of the 4 transverter output can also be used for 2300 / 2400 MHz - see mods below to maintain output level.

The module should be used with the 8 band decoder which will provide PTT steering for the 8 bands - see this page for more details.

PCBs and the control PIC are available from the BATC Shop.

The latest parts list is here File:8_BAND_RF_SWITCH_V3.0_PARTS.xls.

Version 3 PCB - October 2021

We have seen a number of failures caused by the use of the 8 way switches with the LimeSDR (the PCB was originally designed for use with the Filter-Modulator Board). The problem with the LimeSDR is that it can easily deliver +17 dBm during its calibration pulse, thus feeding +22 dBm into the RF switch, which exceeds its absolute maximum rating at 146 and 437 MHz.

The version PCB provides a solution by increasing the attenuation on the input to the 8-way RF switch, or to use a lower gain RF amplifier. The revised layout is as show:

Version 2.2 PCBs

The circuit for Version 2.1 and 2.2 PCBs is here: Media:8 BAND RF SWITCH V2-1 SCH.pdf. Note that the value of C13 should be increased to 2.2 uF to prevent the 5V regulator from oscillating.

Version 2.1 PCBs

The previous version, V2.1 requires 2 minor corrections during construction.

The grounded ends of R1 and R2 on the input attenuator need properly connecting to ground. Thanks to Colin G4EML for spotting this and pointing out that this can be corrected by scraping away some of the solder resist next to the pads and adding a blob of solder to connect the resistors to ground as shown in his picture here:

Lime SDR

When used with the Lime SDR, Dave G8GKQ recommended changes to the input attenutor in his article in CQ-TV 262 to improve performance at 2.4GHz. C16 changes to 1pF and R5 becomes a Zero Ohms link. The modification is shown here on a prototype PCB with the 1pf capacitor on the white square.

All the parts in the attenuator are 0603 sized; the V2.3 arrangement is in the revised parts list.

Here is a V2.3 PCB for LimeSDR Mini use, and the underside showing the wire link. Assembled by David M0YDH

Version 1 PCBs

The initial design was as shown above - the first batch of boards will be supplied in this form. The initial (V1.0) circuit is here: Media:8 BAND RF SWITCH V1-0 SCH.pdf.

HOWEVER, the circuit needed some simple rework to provide a more stable power supply for the SKY MMIC and to equalise the levels across the bands. The modifications are to:

Cut the track on the underside between the output of the voltage regulator and the link point marked 5VA.
Replace the 7805 with a 7808 regulator (for 8 volts) and wire a 30 ohm resistor between the regulator output and the the point marked 5VB. Note that the resistor will need to dissipate 300mW (it passes 100mA), so 3 1/8 watt 10 ohm resistors in series might be easiest.
Wire a new 78L05 regulator on the underside of the board with its input from the 12V supply and its output to the point marked 5VA.
The input attenuator should be set up with R1=R2=68 ohms, and R3=220 ohms. To get the full 10 dBm output on 1255 MHz, add a series combination of 68 ohms and 2.7 pf across R3. The first batch of PCBs do not have pads for the extra capacitor and resistor.

The modified board is shown below.

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-For those of you who want to drive Microwave transverters from your Portsdown or need a higher drive level, the team have developed an 8-Band RF output switch that includes an RF amplifier. It is designed to be used with the Output Attenuator (see below). It will be capable of amplifying the variable level from the attenuator providing up to 10 dBm and switching it to separate amplifiers for the 70, 144, 437 and 1255 MHz bands, and to 4 transverters for the higher bands. PCBs are available from the BATC Shop.
+For those of you who want to drive Microwave transverters from your Portsdown or need a higher drive level, the team have developed an 8-Band RF output switch that includes an RF amplifier.
-===Version 2 PCBs===
+It is capable of amplifying the variable level from the Filter Modulator board / Lime SDR up to 10 dBm and switching it to separate external amplifiers for the 70, 144, 437, 1255 bands and up to 4 transverters for the higher bands. One of the 4 transverter output can also be used for 2300 / 2400 MHz - see mods below to maintain  output level.
-The Current PCBs from the BATC Shop are Version 2.2. The previous version, V2.1 requires 2 minor corrections during construction.
+The module should be used with the 8 band decoder which will provide PTT steering for the 8 bands - [[8-Band Decoder|see this page for more details.]]
+PCBs and the control PIC are available from the BATC Shop.
+The latest parts list is here [[:File:8_BAND_RF_SWITCH_V3.0_PARTS.xls]].
+===Version 3 PCB - October 2021===
+We have seen a number of failures caused by the use of the 8 way switches with the LimeSDR (the PCB was originally designed for use with the Filter-Modulator Board).  The problem with the LimeSDR is that it can easily deliver +17 dBm during its calibration pulse, thus feeding +22 dBm into the RF switch, which exceeds its absolute maximum rating at 146 and 437 MHz.
+The version PCB provides a solution by increasing the attenuation on the input to the 8-way RF switch, or to use a lower gain RF amplifier.  The revised layout is as show:
+[[File:8 way switch v3.JPG|400px]]
+[[File:8 way switch v3 circuit.JPG|400px]]
+===Version 2.2 PCBs===
+The circuit for Version 2.1 and 2.2 PCBs is here: [[Media:8 BAND RF SWITCH V2-1 SCH.pdf]].
+Note that the value of C13 should be increased to 2.2 uF to prevent the 5V regulator from oscillating.
+===Version 2.1 PCBs===
+The previous version, V2.1 requires 2 minor corrections during construction.
 The grounded ends of R1 and R2 on the input attenuator need properly connecting to ground.  Thanks to Colin G4EML for spotting this and pointing out that this can be corrected by scraping away some of the solder resist next to the pads and adding a blob of solder to connect the resistors to ground as shown in his picture here:
@@ Line 9: / Line 32: @@
 [[File:V2.1 Rework.JPG|240px]]
-The current batch of PCBs from the BATC Shop are version 2.2, which have this fault corrected.  The circuit for Version 2.1 and 2.2 PCBs is here: [[Media:8 BAND RF SWITCH V2-1 SCH.pdf]].
+====Lime SDR====
-===Lime SDR===
+When used with the Lime SDR, Dave G8GKQ recommended changes to the input attenutor in his article in CQ-TV 262 to improve performance at 2.4GHz. C16 changes to 1pF and R5 becomes a Zero Ohms link.  The modification is shown here on a prototype PCB with the 1pf capacitor on the white square.
-When used with the Lime SDR, Dave G8GKQ recommended changes to the input attenutor in his article in CQ-TV 262 to improve performance at 2.4GHz. C16 changes to 1pF and R5 becomes a Zero Ohms link. All the parts in the attenuator are 0603 chip sized.
+[[File:6 8RF Mod.JPG|400px]]
-This V2.3 arrangement is in the revised parts list.
+All the parts in the attenuator are 0603 sized; the V2.3 arrangement is in the revised parts list.
+Here is a V2.3 PCB for LimeSDR Mini use, and the underside showing the wire link. Assembled by David M0YDH
-[[File:20190201 182759-1008x756.jpg|480px]]      [[File:20190201 182818-1008x756.jpg|480px]]
+[[File:20190201 182759-1008x756.jpg|400px]]      [[File:20190201 182818-1008x756.jpg|480px]]
-V2.3 for Lime Mini SDR service and underside showing wire link. Assembled by David M0YDH
 ===Version 1 PCBs===
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 [[File:8-Band RF Switch Built V1 small.jpg|576px]]
-The initial design was as shown above - the first batch of boards will be supplied in this form.  The initial (V1.0) circuit is here:  [[Media:8 BAND RF SWITCH V1-0 SCH.pdf]].  The first board layout is here: [[Media:8_BAND_RF_SWITCH_V2.2_PARTS.xls]].
+The initial design was as shown above - the first batch of boards will be supplied in this form.  The initial (V1.0) circuit is here:  [[Media:8 BAND RF SWITCH V1-0 SCH.pdf]].
-The original parts list and those for V2.2 Portsdown Filter Modulator and V2.3 Lime Mini SDR and has only been checked against the DigiKey Part Numbers, are here: [[:File:8_BAND_RF_SWITCH_V2.2_PARTS.xls]].  This parts list does include components for the input attenuator for each type of modulator on seperate tabs.
 HOWEVER, the circuit needed some simple rework to provide a more stable power supply for the SKY MMIC and to equalise the levels across the bands.  The modifications are to:
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 [[File:8-Way RF Prototype Small.jpg|556px]]
-===Usage and Performance===
-The 8-way switch is intended to be used in association with the digital attenuator described here https://wiki.batc.org.uk/Output_Attenuator .
-Typical system output levels with the digital attenuator connected to the output of the filter modulator board, and followed by the 8-way switch are shown below.  Output levels and shoulder levels with the attenuator set to 0 dB and 3 dB are included.
-{| class="wikitable"
-|-
-! Freq !! Level @0dB Atten !! Shoulders !! Level @-3dB !! Shoulders
-|-
-| 71 || +10 dBm || -45 dB || +7 dBm || -50 dB
-|-
-| 146 || +12 dBm || -45 dB || +9 dBm || -50 dB
-|-
-| 437 || +14.5 dBm || -45 dB || +11.5 dBm || -50 dB
-|-
-| 1255 || +11 dBm || -45 dB || +8 dBm || -45 dB
-|}